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  CSPAN    Key Capitol Hill Hearings    Series/Special. Speeches from policy makers  
   and coverage from around the country. (Stereo)  

    November 4, 2013
    6:00 - 8:00pm EST  

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what we did not anticipate, of course, was what happened on september 11, 2001. we went from surpluses to deficits almost overnight. he tax cuts remained in effect. i think you're right, there should have been some revisiting of those tax cuts that were in effect, but the tax cuts allowed us to avoid a major recession and yet the company promoted it and sold it and induced others to buy it through kickback schemes and other inducements to treat the elderly who were suffering from alzheimer's or other forms of dementia, to treat children and to treat the disabled. when you promote drugs for purposes that they are not intended for and had not been approved by the fda, we don't believe that is a violation of the first amendment. >> isn't this off-label marketing? >> what we are prosecuting is back in 2001. host: you bring up deficits. how much motivation is there right now to get a grand deal done whether it's in this effort or future effort with u.s. just having posted its lowest deficits in 2008, is it? guest: we ended up the fiscal year that just ended, fiscal $6802013 with a deficit of billion. i believe the figure was, and promoting drugs for purposes that have not been approved, that have not been shown to be safe or even effective. that's what this case is about. >> the statute requires that for intended uses the labeling for the drug provide directions for use and reflect any restrictions. what we are talking about in this case involves promotion for
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that was a significant of 30%, 40% reduction of the previous year of $1.1 trillion. and the immediate effect, is it taking pressure off and things are improving. things are improving in the near term. part of the reason why the deficit came down so significantly, receive news wept up 13% and spending wept down 2% last year. the combination of those two resulted in the deficit coming down. intended uses without the required instructions for use that the statute mandates. >> mr. attorney general, there are lots of questions about the shooting at lax on friday. what is the latest understanding of the investigation? do you think any things could the difficulty is that while that's a good sign in the near term, all projections because of the demographics are going forward, all projections indicate that we will continue to see deficits coming back in the future a more important from the annual deficit, some work we have done at the bipartisan policy is the fact that the accumulation is debt, not deficits, debt, will continue to have been done to stop this in the future? >> the investigation is underway and part of that investigation will be a review of the security measures that were in place not only at lax but also a review of arrangements that exist at other airports. the function of tsa is to ensure that people can board planes safely, take flights safely, the responsibility for protecting airport security is not a tsa function, but something we need to examine given what happened in los angeles.
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remain up in the 70% out into the future because as the economy starts to recover, interest rates will start to come back up and the fastest growing component of the federal budget will not be social security, medicare, medicaid but paying the interest of that accumulated debt of $17 trillion. that's the concern that we have. not so much the deficit, income, that's good and positive, but >> would you say there is a sort of anger at the government that was behind this? >> that is one things we will have to determine as part of the investigation. we have to get a full picture of the custody of understand what his motive might have been. it certainly does not justify the killing of a brave tsa injured or others who were injured. the long-term risk that we are faced with accumulation of debt. host: i want you to focus on paul ryan and his history on working in these efforts. he was part of the simpson- bowles commission, but voted against it and wasn't part of that supercommittee effort. how do democrats see him as they are entering negotiations? do they prefer him versus john boehner to work with in these no feelings of the government could possibly justify those kinds of actions. >> you are scheduled to go to trial interior weeks over the the merger of american airlines and usairways. how will you settle this and what are the expectations? >> this is a matter that we have
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negotiations? guest: i have to point out that chairman ryan was a fellow staffer with me in the united states senate when he worked for a senator in wisconsin and we worked together on the senate budget committee. yes. i think chairman ryan, he definitely has a conservative focus in terms of controlling spending. he has a definite outlook that we can control spending going forward and he focuses, i think correctly on those issues such touched upon with airlines we have sued, have expressed concerns about the potential reduction in competition that a merger would potentially impose. i'm not going into any detail of the discussions that we are engaging in, but i will say that they are ongoing. what we have tried to focus on is to make sure that any resolution in this case necessarily includes divestitures of facilities at key constrained airports throughout the united states. as entitlement spending. think that yes, this -- he is dedicated to principles to his position as is chairman murray. so i do think that they will probably look at him as one of the budget experts in the house that they can work with and find a compromise. host: how do they see patty murray, would they prefer to work with her as opposed to that, for us, is something that has to be a part of any resolution. the conversations are ongoing and we hope we can resolve this resolve this short a trial. if we don't meet those demands, we are fully prepared to take this case to trial. >> this involves more than 1000 routes. are you willing to go for a settlement that potentially has
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harry reid? guest: they are the chairs of the two budget committees. that's their responsibility. there's no question, let's be honest that chairman ryan and chairman murray will work with their leadership if an agreement is to be reached. it is not done in is lation of their leadership. yes, they look at this as a way of what we call regular order, the way it should be, the two chairmen of the two committees go to work and try to find a a lower number of routes? >> our concern is making sure we look at, as we do in all cases, that we bring benefits to consumers. we alleged in the complaint our concerns that we have had. a number of ways we can deal with those concerns. we will see what the conversations bring, but we will middle ground that can actually pass a budget that will be the blueprint for the rest of this year and maybe for years to come. home host: should any corporation be tax exempt when the country is holding trillions of dollars in debt? guest: i don't know any corporation is tax exempt. they do pay corporate taxes, so i'm not quite sure that's not agree to something that does not fundamentally resolve the concerns expressing complaints and do not substantially bring relief to consumers. >> is there a magic number of slots you need at different airports? >> yes, there is, but i won't tell you what it is. >> a real quick question on the surveillance issue -- there has
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relevant. host: let's go to michael on our line for independents. michael, you are on with bill hoagland from the bipartisan policy center. caller: good morning, mr. hoagland. mr. hoagland, i heard senator sanders speaking the other day on the senate floor that one in four corporations don't pay any taxes at all. and he said while other countries are spending money on health care education and infrastructure we are spending been an overlap over the last piece of week or two, u.s. surveillance practices. about 80% of the work agencies like nsa is outside the u.s. and is not governed by statutes. it is governed by guidelines that you or your predecessors put in place. are you looking at whether those guidelines provide any protection for foreign nationals? can you give any assurances abroad that the government is not doing this willy-nilly? >> as the president has unbelievable amounts on our military. do you think our military budget is sane when we are strapping our new generation with education debts that are unbelievable, what are your thoughts? guest: number one, yes, i understand what senator sanders is saying. corporations do receive credits, deductions, exclusions that could avoid -- that could result indicated -- and he is right -- we are in the process of conducting a review of the surveillance activities to make sure we are striking a balance to keeping the american people safe and our allies safe and also guarding the civil liberties and privacy of those same people. we are in conversations with our partners in europe and other parts of the world to make sure we strike that balance.
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in them not having to pay their corporate income tax rate. i think one of the critical factors hopefully that congress can continue to address is corporate tax reform, in which case we could eliminate it. on defense spending, no question in my mind that additional reductions in defense spending are going to have to happen, are going to have to go forward and done in a way that focuses on strategic goals of protecting this country going forward. simply because we can do certain things does not necessarily mean we should do these things. i think that is the chief question that has to be resolved. it is almost a cost-benefit. what are the benefits we are receiving and what are the protections we are generating against the privacy that we necessarily have to give up? that review is underway, and it and yes, again, we are back to the same situation, balancing out those spending reductions, in defense, food stamps, child nutrition programs. we have to find a balance in order to stay on a path that is fiscally sound for our children and grandchildren. host: this is an editorial from "usa today," don't cut the big benefit programs. we must not balance the budget is thorough, and the president is fully engaged in that review as are other members of the national security team. i would expect that in a relatively short period of time, we will have announcements to make. let me emphasize one thing, the concerns we have here not only with american citizens. i hope the people in europe will hear this, people who are
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on the most vulnerable people in the country. what is his role in the conference effort? guest: he is going to make the case for the protection of the vulnerable members of our society and the benefits and the safety net society and that's a useful role that he plays. however, i would also say as i said at the outset that the basic problem here is that it's the entitlement programs, not is afety net programs, it members of the eu, nations are concerned. our concerns go to their privacy considerations as well. we are looking at this in a very holistic way. >> can you help the american citizens understand why a healthcare fraud case might take so many years? the complaint was back in 2002. can you help the average person understand why it takes so long to get here? >> my own experience has been the medicare, social security, those programs going forward that we are going to have to address and i believe chairman murray and chairman ryan understand that full well. host: we are talking to senior vice president at the bipartisan policy center. he is the former republican staff director on the senate budget committee from 1986-2003. he's answering your questions, taking your comments for the next 15 minutes or so on the that these are complex investigations that require huge amounts of research, lots of documents that have to be reviewed, and great numbers of people who have to be interviewed. it frequently cross jurisdictions. you want to make sure that you investigate these things as thoroughly as you can to make sure you understand in its totality, the harms or potential harms that have occurred or hold
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"washington journal." and go to jack on our line for republicans, from maryland. caller: i'm glad to hear your organization there. sounds like a long reaching look on things. that is my question, but my main question and just a couple of ideas, is how far down the road do you look in trying to come up with ideas? what's the dominant party, the accountable corporations or the institutions and all of the individuals you possibly can. >> unless someone goes to jail, will this just be considered a cost of doing business for big corporations? >> given the magnitude of the settlements that we extract and also the ongoing nature of the minority party. everybody trying to control the passage of legislation. i can see people aren't going to change the way the rules of our congress in the near term for fear of losing out. couldn't they look eight years, 10 years down the road and say let's get rid of things that cost us time when there is foolishness going on, let's get monitoring that is done is part typically of these resolutions, that conduct and cultures tend to change in these companies. we work through these to make sure that which happened in the past does not happen in the future. >> i think what you have seen in
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rid of the filibuster or every term that we have in congress, let's make it longer. that would make for one-third less campaigns and elections, all of the expenses associated with that. i'll hang up listening. guest: one of the projects that we have under way at the bipartisan policy center is a democracy project, we call it the democracy project which we the last 4 1/2 years increasingly from this department of justice and for this attorney general is in settlements like this and resolutions like this with nonmonetary provisions which seek to change corporate behavior. you have very specific provisions here that talk about changing the compensation models for the sales force, changing some of those incentives, actually trying to change behavior. the magnitude of the fine launched earlier this year where we are looking into the specific issues that you mentioned, jack, as it relates to government filibusters, campaign finance the issues of redistricting out there. first of all, i think i agree with you, jack, this is more than just spending and revenues. structure. penalty speaks for itself. in addition to accountability, i think we are looking for deterrance. in civil settlements, you will have an acknowledgment of facts. as we think about how best to resolve these types of cases, we are looking for ways that will change behavior as well as demand accountability. >> would you give us an up date on the discussions with jpmorgan chase?
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some of the issues that have created difficulties and coming to agreements going forward. at the same time, jack, i guess i'm an old senate staffer, i'm going to have to disagree with you on the filibuster. i do believe that the great deliberative body here called the united states senate, that the filibuster does have a role to play. think our founding fathers made it very clear they expected to be these kinds of conflicts but expected that the passions we were expecting a settlement for have to come quickly, but there seem to be sticking point. can you tell us what they are? >> what timeframe were you expecting? that's still an operative phrase. the associative attorney, tony of the house would be cooled by the senate as george washington referred to it. there is a role for the filibuster. there should be modifications. we shouldn't filibuster everything, motion to consider legislation. a lot of the issues you raised are issues outside the budget committee's responsibility and have to go to the actual structure of our senate, our house, committee structures and formulation of policy going west, has been leading our side in connection with these conversations. they are ongoing. i think they have been productive, but i don't want to get into the nature of what we have been talking about other than to say that i expect one way or the other, we will resolve this soon. we will either have an agreement or we will be filing a lawsuit. do you want to elaborate? >> we are not in a position to announce anything today.
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forward. i also want to agree with you, i'm not sure too many people in the house would agree with you, but it would be nice if we could change the term limit in the house from two years to four years. that would require a change in the constitution. -- term limit. a term of the member of the house going from two to four years bus the time is spent here for those house members, >> hold on -- are there other questions? >> i cannot help but note it was was almost four years ago to the day that -- do you think the prosecution would have been over by now? that's a good question to ask. what we have seen over these past four years, not to be egocentric, but i was right. i had access to documents, files particularly new house members, seems like they spend an awful for f time raising money the next election and not able to focus on the job that they were elected to come here. host: you were talking about the last time divided chambers when they came up with a budget conference agreement. talk about the history of that. guest: yes, let me try to explain it very carefully. and recommendations by the military, u.s. attorneys offices in the eastern district of virginia and the southern district of new york. i think the decision that i announced on that day was right. i think the facts and events that have occurred since demonstrate that.
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the budget act that was created in 1974, set up this process -- budget committee in the house, budget committee in the senate and it created the congressional budget office. that act has been in existence for almost 40 years. every year we pass a budget in the house, a budget in the senate and we went to conference and agreed to it. the last time, hard to believe, the last time there was an agreement when we had divided i think had we gone along the path, we would not have closed down half of manhattan or caused $200 million per year. the defendants would be on death row. we, unfortunately, did not go down that road for reasons other than those connected to the litigation, largely political. i think this is an example of what happens with politics and when it gets into matters that should be decided by lawyers and by national security experts. congress, house was under democratic control, senate was under republican control, the last time we had an agreement when we had a divided congress with a budget resolution conference agreement was 1986. >> here's a picture from june 7, 1986, what are you seeing here? > senator domenici and the senate was under control of the republicans. he was the chairman. >> which brings me to libby, who is being tried in the federal court. how long do you expect that trial to last? what are your expectations for for the case? >> that is a pending matters or want to be careful about any comments i make. charges have been filed, very serious charges.
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myself on the right and my deputy on the left, who, by the way is today the staff director of the house budget committee with chairman ryan. this was in june. and i believe we got a conference agreement in june -- about june 23, 196. now we have had gotten agreements since then, but it the defendant has been charged with participation in a worldwide conspiracy that has a number of separate acts including the bombings of our embassies. it is our intention to hold him totally accountable as we have others who were part of this conspiracy. i think the process we used, we were able to get intelligence from him and still have a viable was the house was under the same control as the senate or we didn't get agreement at all. but never had a situation where the house was republican and the senate was democrat and we achieved a budget conference committee report. this is a high hurdle this conference is going into. host: what do you think the restoration of clinton tax rates for a decade would do to the national debt? case and that's an indication that article 3 system is an effective tool to hold people accountable and getting intelligence from people who possess it. >> how long do you expect this process to last? >> it should be just as long as. if you look at the history of article three prosecutions, you'll see they don't take
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guest: he -- we did restore some of those tax rates back in january when we faced the fiscal cliff back there, 800 billion. restoration of those tax rates prior to the 2001 tax cuts that were enacted. probably add trillion dollars to revenue over the next decade and that would make a good dent in the deficits. nearly as long as those that occur in the military system. which is not to say that some cases should not be brought into the military system. if you look at the hundreds of cases we have brought in article three courts, we have shown we can be effective and they can be done relatively quickly and we can get results that are consistent with the facts. current estimates of the deficits over the next 10 years is close to $7 trillion. it will not do it alone if you simply raise revenues by going back to those rates. what we need is growth and we need spending reduction. host: bill hoagland is talking to us about the budget talks happening on capitol hill. on the day that they met last week, budget talks brought demirbled expectations and we will talk for the next five or we hold people accountable. we hold people accountable. >> on the boston marathon case, is the justice department going to go for the death penalty in that case? >> we have a process we have to follow. we have united states attorney from boston who is part of that process. a recommendation will come from the u.s. attorney. it will go through our capital case committee. it will go to the deputy
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10 minutes and taking your calls. charlie from florida on our line for democrats. charlie, good morning. gentleman from the bipartisan center. bipartisanship is what we need and i like him using the word balance and balance is needed quite a bit. one thing i haven't heard yet talked about is the spending attorney general, and finally, it will come to me before i make the determination as to whether or not we would seek the death penalty. >> have you made a recommendation for mr. ortiz? >> the process is ongoing. >> mr. attorney general, why haven't charges been filed against george zimmerman yet? >> the case of george zimmerman cuts and maybe raising revenue if push comes to shove, but the actual elephant in the room is the problem with the wealth distribution in the country. you can't have a good economy if half the people don't have any money to spend. it's a consumer economy and to just be ignoring that fact and around the policies that got us to this point the last 32 years, 33 years, that have crushed and what happens there i think -- a substantial part was resolved in the case that was tried. the inquiry reviewed and we are still doing an investigation. i'm not sure how much longer that will take but and we get to a point where we are able to make a determination, we try to construct the case and i way that we can share as much information, not just make an
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wages and given money to the too big to fail banks and the craziness, i think the ring has been shoved down everybody's throat is what really needs to be addressed. guest: difficult issue. that is the income distribution issue. we know based upon census data at least on the basis of what we have seen, there has been a growing degree of inquality. announcement but share the information with regard to that determination. >> one more? >> ok, one more. [laughter] >> there is a senate hearing on prison reform. what would you like to see congress pass to change the way the prison system is? >> i talked about this in san francisco in august. i said i thought the system was broken. i did not mean to imply that i i would suggest that members of congress are aware of this and that's part of the ideological differences that we have here is how you grow an economy that lifts all boats and deals with the critical issue you have mentioned in terms of inequality. my guess is we do need to focus on those particular policies that grow the economy, create more jobs, create more income and address specifically the was only talking about the federal system. we have problems that go further. i think we need to come up with ways in which we hold people accountable. we also need to come up with ways in which we prevent people from becoming involved in the prison system. there are people who have deficits and are in the system so they can be made better and ultimately released and become productive citizens. that's why we need to focus on reentry. we need to have sentences that
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types of concerns you have about inequality or distribution of income. it is a difficult issue, but it is not unrelated to what kinds of policies congress considers inputting together a budget going forward. host: we have been talking about the membership of this committee that's meeting to talk about the budget and has its deadline on december 13. one of the members of that committee is tom coll, a republican from oklahoma, house are, i think, consistent with the conduct a particular defendant is convicted of. i think there has been a tendency in the past to mete out sentences that are frankly excessive. at this point, given the resource constraints we have, i look to the justice department and the amount of money federal prisons consume, we have to rethink our priorities. member. at is his role in the budget conference? it is noted he is a guy with a large military presence in his district that would be impacted by sequestration and outspoken guy and willing to break with his party on occasion. what is his role? guest: congressman coal is a thoughtful -- congressman cole s a thoughtful congressman and we never want to put at risk the american people, and states at risk without showing you can come up with substantial reform and keep the american people safe and do things in a way that is different. i would hope congress would look at the experience of states and look at the proposals and make those 21st century changes that i think are really needed. >> thank you very much.
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he will advise and going forward with recommendations with the committee. if think that recognizing there is no agreement, that we will have what we call a sequester that will go down to a lower level of defense come january 16. it does seem to me he will want to try to press for some way of [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] tonight a conversation about the 2008 financial crisis. we are surrounded by a few of the items that kept may mean on the list. she also worked with one of her favorite designers. finding additional receive news or additional spending reductions that would allow for us to avoid further cuts in efense at least for 2014 going forward. so he will play a major role in this discussion. host: you have a chart on your page, the sequester cuts and this is the outfit she wore to the opening of the saint lawrence seaway, where she and queen elizabeth and prince philip. this dress includes a five-start symbol for eisenhower. these are a few examples of heard day dresses. she was fond of pink and wore it in different shades and styles.
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defense cuts would be $492 billion in $492 billion in nondefense cuts. guest: over the next 10 years. and the current fiscal year would be $50 billion. the president's budget, the house-passed budget and the senate-passed budget all have the same level request for $552 spending as billion. the difficulty is that mr. an's would like to go to a jackie kennedy is well known for the little black dress. here are examples of mam ie's little black dresses. she always said she would never dress as a little old lady. it shows her love for bright fabric and colors. at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span and c-span3, also c- span radio and www.c-span.org. higher level. he cut down nondefense discretionary spending some $90 billion. how do you find a way to maintain that $552 billion for for next year and not page, the the nondefense and will be hurt the most by a sequester going forward. host: what's your next report in speaking inck hagel new york last week. he talked about the benefits to same-sex couples in the national service. an hour.
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the next couple of weeks here as we look forward? guest: we will continue to focus on the impacts of sequester and immigration reform being an important element of economic growth for the future. we are focusing on housing issues going forward and we have a major effort under way in governance and democracy. so a lot going on and very active organization for a young new organization. host: see all that work at thank you. thank you very much. thank you. i -- i'm grateful for an opportunity to spend a special evening with all of you, each of you. it is a privilege. it is a room, as i sat and ipartisanpolicy.organize [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> the senate debated a ban on the lgbt community in employment. we will talk to the policy director at the gay rights group and hear from the chairman of the latino coalition on immigration legislation in listened and had an opportunity to renew all old acquaintances, and make new friends. it is a room full of warmth, friendship, love, but of purpose. i want to thank this institution for what you have done for this
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congress and a conversation on the role of third parties in american politics with a political science professor. watch "washington journal" at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. and today johnson and johnson greed to pay $2 billion to resolve that they approved psychiatric drugs. ey are accused of paying kickbacks to pharmacists and doctors. country and the world the last 100 years. it is a unique, special, courageous institution. in a world that not often is about courage, it is about character, as each individual's life is guided by those indispensable elements, character and courage. i thank you for what you are attorney general holder announced the decision today at the justice department. >> good morning, thank you all for being here. i am going to be joined by the associate attorney general, assistant attorney general, the united states attorney for the eastern district of pennsylvania, the u.s. attorney for the district of massachusetts, first assistant united states attorney for the northern district of california, and the deputy inspector general for investigations of the doing. what you have done, and what you continue to do. thank you for honoring my friend and my predecessor, leon panetta. i told -- you can clap. [applause] i told leon that i would be up on the stage soon, showering him with praise and glory. it is a regular thursday night
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department of health and human services. we are here today to announce that johnson and johnson and three of its subsidiaries have agreed to pay more than $2.2 billion to resolve criminal and civil claims they marketed prescription drugs for uses that were never approved, safe, or effective. there were kickbacks to physicians and pharmacies to prescribing these drugs. occurrence for panetta. [laughter] just another thursday night he gets another award, another recognition. in panetta's case, it is well deserved. that career that he has built, and the service he has provided for our country is among the most unique and distinguished careers of modern public service. i really mean that. [applause] hrough these alleged acts from these companies, they lined their pockets with the money of american taxpayers and private insurance industry. they drove up costs for everyone in the health care system and negatively impacted the long-term solvency of the central healthcare programs by medicare. this global settlement resolves these companies, they lined their pockets with the money of american taxpayers and private insurance industry. multiple investigations involving the ente psychotic drugs and other johnson & johnson products. this is an appropriate recognition. i want to share with you, and i promise leon and other members of congress that it is brief. you hear that all the time. i recognize i still have some bad habits that i picked up.
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the settlement also addresses allegations of conduct that recklessly put at risk the health of some of the most vulnerable members of our society including children, the elderly, and the disabled. the criminal information that was filed today alleges that the johnson and johnson subsidiary, janssen violated a drug for unapproved uses. clearly, they admit they use this will be some comments i want to share with all of you that i spent some time on. not that anything i am about to say is profound. i'm incapable of that. nonetheless, i try. these are comments i do feel and i strongly believe. as i begin my comments i want to this drug to healthcare providers for the treatment of psychotic symptoms and associated behaviors. it was exhibited by the elderly, non-schizophrenic patients who suffered from dementia. even though the drug was proved -- approved only to treat schizophrenia. and separately filed complaints, johnson and johnson and janssen promoted ripodol to retirement homes. share with you tonight, i want to acknowledge so many special people in the room. we will not be will to get to everyone tonight. one in particular who taught me about the adl, what it was doing, why it was important. that is bob who is here tonight. [applause]
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the companies allegedly downgraded the serious health risks associated with the drug including risk of stroke in elderly patients and even paid doctors to induce doctors to prescribe these drugs. this was part of a scheme and the company allegedly paid kickbacks to the nation's largest long-term care pharmacies whose pharmacists were supposed to provide an as most of you know, bob directed the adl office for a number of years. as i think most of you know, bob directed the adl office in omaha for a number of years, and when i ran for the united states senate, i began my campaign in 1995, in nebraska, no one knew me. bob was one of the first to come to see me, to take a measure of me -- is this a serious fellow, what does he believe, what's he about? on more than one occasion, i was independent view of the medications. instead, at the company's behest, the pharmacists allegedly recommended rispodol for nursing home patients that exhibited symptoms of dementia and alzheimer's disease. this brought in millions of dollars in false claims for these drugs. to resolve allegations stemming from the improper promotion of a guest in his home, as he would gather different people, and i would try to convince them that i was the right person to support for united states senate. but i would never forget the hours i spent with bob and his generosity and thoughtfulness and his tutoring this fellow who wanted to be a united states senator who didn't really understand so much of the things that you have done over the
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rispodol, janssen pharmaceuticals will plead guilty and pay $400 million in criminal fines as well as forfeitures. johnson and johnson and janssen pharmaceuticals have agreed to pay $1.2 billion to resolve their civil liabilities under the false claims act. johnson & johnson will pay an additional $149 billion to resolve claims relating to alleged kickbacks for the long-term care pharmacies. years and why you're so important. so to bob, tonight, thank you, my friend. i am grateful. [applause] as i have noted, your selection of leon panetta is, i think, very appropriate for 100 years, as you celebrate what you've done. in addition to these claims, we allege that johnson and johnson as well as its subsidiary, romoted the heart failure drug for off label uses that caused patients to submit to costly confusions of the drug without credible scientific evidence it would have any health benefit for those patients. in a separate matter that was resolved in 2009, stiles pleaded hilty to miss branding and paid and i can't think of a more appropriate public servant. throughout his career, he's embodied the adl's fight -- continued fight -- for justice, equality, and security. and the adl has been about that. your theme tonight, for your 100th anniversary, imagine a world without hate, that theme captures the hope and the possibilities of mankind.
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a criminal fine of 85 million dollars. to resolve the current allegations, the companies have agreed to pay an additional 184 billion dollars. his significant settlement was made possible by the relentless investigative and enforcement efforts of dedicated men and women serving as part of the healthcare fraud prevention and enforcement team or heat, which kathleen sebelius and i launched that hope and that sense of possibility is overflowing in this room tonight. you know that. but you also understand the realities that will always temper a certain amount of hope. but if we don't have hope, there's not much left. and there is no goal more worthy more than four years ago to recover taxpayer dollars and keep our people safe and to aggressively punish fraud and misconduct wherever it is found. the alleged conduct is shameful and it is unacceptable. it displayed a reckless indifference to the safety of the american people and the constituted an abuse of the public trust showing a blatant disregard for systems and laws designed to protect the hotel. or more noble than world peace, which you do and you're about. a world of respect -- respect and dignity for all people, all mankind, as noted on this stage by other speakers tonight. and although that may seem impossible, we must never ever quit trying. no organization has done more in pursuing this dream than the adl. it is who you are.
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as our filings made clear, these are not victimless crimes. americans trust medications prescribed for their parents and grandparents, for their children and for themselves. they are selected because they are in the patient's best nterest. it's your very fiber. year after year, decade after decade, you have fought against intolerance, prejudice, and injustice all over the world, including in america's armed forces. the department of defense is proud -- very proud -- to have worked with the adl to make our military more open and more equal and more just. one example of this historic partnership is at the air force academy, where only a few years ago there were troubling accusations of religious the laws enacted by congress and the enforcement efforts of the fda provide important safeguards to ensure that the drugs are proof -- are approved for uses that are safe as well as effective. efforts by drug companies to introduce their drugs into interstate commerce for unapproved uses subvert those laws. likewise, payment of kickbacks undermines the independent medical judgment of healthcare providers. it creates financial incentives to increase the use of certain drugs, potentially putting the help of some patients at risk. every time pharmaceutical companies engage in this type of intolerance and anti-semitism. that began to change when the local adl worked with leaders at the academy to create a special course on respect for religious freedom, which is now required for all cadets. going forward, we will continue to build on this relationship. we'll build on the relationship because there is so much more we have to learn from each other. both of our institutions are committed to strong national security, and both are committed
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conduct, they corrupt medical decisions by healthcare providers. they jeopardize the public health and they take money out of the taxpayers pockets. this settlement demonstrates that the department of justice and health and human services are working alongside a variety of federal, state, and local partners will sibley not olerate such activities. no company is above the law. my colleagues and i are determined to keep moving forward abiding by the facts and to combating hatred and bigotry. the adl has never separated the two, for they are interconnected. you've shown that the strength of civil rights underpins strong national security. this balance has been the essence of leon panetta's career. as strong as leon panetta is on security, he's always been just as strong on civil rights and equality. the law to hold these corporations accountable. we want to safeguard the american people and prevent this conduct from occurring in the future. this announcement marks another step forward in our strategic, comprehensive, and effective approach to fraud prevention. we can all be encouraged by the actions we have taken and the results we have obtained in recent years. but we cannot yet be satisfied. as the director of the u.s. office for civil rights, one of his first jobs in government, he pushed for equal education across the south. as a leading member of congress, chairman of the budget committee, and the white house chief of staff, he worked to advance civil rights everywhere. and as secretary of defense, he oversaw the repeal of don't ask, don't tell, and opened combat positions for women. the balance between security and
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that is why here in washington and across the country, this critical work will continue. i would like to thank everyone who made this settlement possible. i want to recognize the leaders, prosecutors, trial attorneys, the investigators, and staff of the civil division here in washington as well as our united states attorneys offices in philadelphia, boston, and san francisco. i am grateful for the committed efforts of our partners in the department of health and human services, particularly in the office of the inspector civil rights sends an important message to the world. and leon panetta has lived that message. at the department of defense, we work to preserve america's individual liberties as well as defend our national freedom. when the supreme court issued its decision on the defense of marriage act this summer, the department of defense immediately began working on providing the same benefits to all eligible spouses, regardless general. as well as the food and drug administration and many other agencies that contributed to this outcome. i want to thank each of the state attorneys general and medicaid fraud units across the country for contributing to this investigation. we would be happy to take any questions you may have at this time. i would like to direct the initial questions to the announcement we just made. of sexual orientation. we did it because everyone who serves our country in uniform, everyone in this country, should receive all the benefits they deserve and they've earned and in accordance with the law. everyone's rights must be protected. [applause] this means that all spouses of service members are entitled to
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>> how many patients received these drugs? >> with regard to the number of patients, i don't have that figure. with regard to the false claims dod i.d. cards, and the benefits that come with them. but several states today are refusing to issue these i.d.'s to same-sex spouses at national guard facilities. not only does this violate the states' obligations under federal law, but their actions have created hardship and inequality by forcing couples to travel long distances to federal allegations, it covers a 10- year period, from 1999 to 2009. with regard to the criminal misdemeanor charge, it covers a little over a one-year period from march of 2002 and carries on until december of 2003. it covers a time period when the risperdol label was linked to schizophrenia. >> did the risk ever turn into actual harm? >> with regard to the evidence in this case, we don't have evidence of actual patient harm. military bases to obtain the i.d. cards they're entitled to. this is wrong. it causes division among our ranks, and it furthers prejudice, which dod has fought to extinguish, as has the adl. today, i directed the chief of the national guard bureau, general frank grass, to take immediate action to remedy this situation. at my direction, he will meet with the adjutants general from the states where these i.d. cards are being declined and denied. the adjutants general will be
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what we have are statements and representations that indicate that risk was being minimized with regard to the use of the product in the elderly, especially with regard to the risk of stroke and with regard to diabetes and things of that nature. it is incumbent on the government to take a look at these type of behavior is to make sure we are prosecuting this case appropriately to make expected to comply with both lawful direction and dod policy, in line with the practices of 45 other states and jurisdictions. whether they are responding to natural disasters here at home, in their states, or fighting in afghanistan, our national guardsmen all wear the uniform of the united states of america. they are serving this country. they and their families are entitled to all the benefits and sure of patient safety. >> one thing that ties the pieces of this case together is the fact that all of that relates to conduct that undermines the regulatory system that has been set up to protect the safety of the medicines we take. part of it relates to activities of the company in marketing efforts but also, the omnicare portion of the case relates to kickbacks that were paid which have the potential to undermine the medical judgment of medical professionals making decisions about individual patients. respect accorded to all of our military men and women. our people are the foundation of a ready and capable force. and that will always be. leon panetta knows this very, very well. he knows it as well as anyone in this room, that the core responsibility of any job of authority or accountability is people. this business is about people.
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we think it's important that we enforce this program that the federal fda administers him a to safeguard medical judgments that are made in this country. >> are there any remaining claims the government has against johnson & johnson -- hope, possibilities, peace is about people. the adl is about people. the united states military is deeply respected by the american people because of the character, the determination, resilience, and courage of our men and women in uniform. these men and women in uniform, as we know, have borne a heavy and constant burden since 9/11, along with their families. and their families often get forgotten in this business. families should never be related to these charges, or does this settle all the claims? >> this is a global resolution with regard to the drugs we announced. this is based upon the evidence we evaluated and made a determination as to what the result would be, and we have now reached a global resolution so we can move on to other cases. >> how many physicians were involved in the kickbacks? how much was paid to them? >> we do not have that specific number. forgotten. they are the anchor, they're the substance, they are the soul, they're the core of who each of us are and what we each represent. yet as we wind down the second of two of america's longest wars, we continue to face a complicated and volatile and dangerous world. nowhere is this more apparent than in the middle east, where the united states and our allies are facing an unprecedented set of complex challenges.
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a lot of what had occurred was that j&j and janssen paid the kickbacks to omnicare, and omnicare in 2009 settled charges against it in which it had for israel, this shifting landscape has brought new threats and new dynamics. even as israel takes important steps toward peace and the two- state solution, these challenges remain on its borders. there are no margins for israel. egypt's future remains uncertain. there is a humanitarian crisis in syria, along with disease and hunger compounding the scourge of sectarian violence and civil war. accepted kickbacks and had paid kickbacks to nursing homes that were utilizing omnicare. the pharmacy had prescription drugs in the kickbacks were in the form of regrets that went to omnicare as well as fees that were supposedly paying for data and to also payments that were disguised to look like educational funding, in particular for pharmacists who were used to induce doctors to prescribe certain medications and in particular, risperdol to seniors in nursing homes. these challenges demand unprecedented cooperation between the united states and israel. israel's self-defense capabilities and its qualitative military edge are central to both israel and u.s. security interests. the united states has provided important support for israel's iron dome system, which has proven very successful in protecting israeli citizens. and earlier this year, the united states reached a historic
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>> the doctors were made a blanket payment? >> i believe that payments went to the doctors on the basis of speaking fees for certain presentations that were made and certain meetings that were attended. >> just to reiterate -- we are looking for a case where someone has died or an elderly patient had been injured. you don't know of one? is that accurate? >> i believe that's correct. agreement, an agreement to open up even more advanced military capabilities to israel. one of these capabilities is the v-22 osprey, a tilt-rotor aircraft that will greatly enhance the range and effectiveness of israeli special forces. tonight, i am pleased to announce that we are working with the israeli government to provide them with six new v- 22's. i have directed the marine corps to make sure that this order is expedited. >> there is a case last december that held the first amendment protected off-label marketing by drug companies. can you explain if that's wrong and why didn't they department pursue that elsewhere and are you pursuing these cases now? >> in that particular case, the conduct that was looked at, the that means israel will get six -- [applause] that means israel will get six v-22's out of the next order to go on the assembly line, and they will be compatible with other idf capabilities. the israeli and american defense relationship is stronger than ever. that isn't due just to where i am at my time.
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court determined it could be freedom of speech, but that's not what we are behind. in this case, we are not looking at off-label marketing in terms of alleging certain factors that are accurate. in particular, one of the key drugs that that were highlighted, risperdol, had been approved for use of schizophrenia and only that that's due to previous secretaries of defense -- panetta, gates, all the previous secretaries, this organization, the american people, our congress, past presidents -- we've all worked together to strengthen this relationship. another area of our common security interests is preventing iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. [applause] the united states is presently testing iranian intentions for a diplomatic solution. as we engage iran along with our partners, we are very clear eyed about the reality in the middle east. iran is a state sponsor of terror, responsible for spreading hatred and extremism throughout the region. but foreign policy is not a zero-sum game. if we can find ways to resolve disputes peacefully, we are wise to explore them.
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engagement is not appeasement, nor is it containment. we know what those are, we know where they lead, and we will not pursue them. and president obama has repeatedly made clear that words are not enough. action must match words. we understand why this is so important to so many people. because we've all been to yad vashem. earlier this year, i had the opportunity to revisit yad vashem. i had been there before, but this time was special for me because i brought my son, ziller, with me. i wanted him to see the harsh realities of the depths of evil and the beautiful tribute to the victims of the past. yad vashem is an instruction for
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future generations -- like all great memorials. a warning to never ever again stand idly by in the face of hatred and bigotry. we know that ridding our world of hatred takes more than just work, imagination, and so on. -- and song. it will always demand commitment, sacrifice, and courage. it demands that we must continue to march our armies of tolerance, equality, and justice around the globe. and it demands that we remember the timeless questions of rabbi hillel -- "if i am not for myself, who will be for me? if i am only for myself, what am i? and if not now, when?" as leon panetta often says, our future is not guaranteed. you've got work to do.
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you've got to work for your future and your freedoms. and you have to fight for it. with the continued help and leadership of the adl, the people in this room, all across the world, i know our country always will. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you, mr. secretary.
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our friendship was a little rocky at the beginning. i say to you with all of these witnesses, i have learned to appreciate. we've traveled a new road of respect and dialogue, and i cherish our friendship and i cherish the fact that you are here tonight, not only to honor your friend and colleague, but also to honor our mission, our vision, and our hope. god bless and thank you very much. [applause]
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we have a special relationship with law enforcement. one of the pieces of paper that i put away referenced in detail that special relationship. most of you in the room know how we feel about law enforcement, sacrifices, and what they mean to a fair and decent and respectful society. we are honored to have many partners from law enforcement and the military. please stand up so that we can all say thank you, thank you for all that you do to keep us safe, to keep our nation safe, and to help us achieve a world without hate. [applause]
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ok. the institute on terrorism and extremism advances the fight against terrorism through education and advocacy by providing information and cutting-edge training to law enforcement communities. we're honored to have with us our good friend who established this institute to honor his late parents. before terrorism was a household word, alan gary had the foresight to help the adl provide our expertise on
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terrorists to law enforcement so they could do a better job of protecting us. we are very proud the service award has been presented to many distinguished law enforcement officials at the fbi, cia, u.s. customs service. the list of prior recipients is in your program, and i think you will agree it is an impressive roster of great americans. tonight, as you heard, we honor leon panetta, who has given much of his life to public service and has left an indelible mark in the fight against terrorism and extremism. history will probably remember him as the director of the central intelligence agency who launched the successful operation to bring osama bin laden to justice.
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as secretary of defense, he kept his commitment to keep america strong while working to end america's involvement in iraq and transition and exit from afghanistan. under his stewardship, cooperation between the united states and israel to face common and security and defense challenges, deepened and grew to an unprecedented level. leon panetta has been there reaching out to consult with israel on terrorist threats and to ensure israel's military superiority. we are especially proud that his early fact-finding trips to israel was an adl mission in
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1991 -- hello -- together with some legislators who went on to assume pivotal leadership roles. if you look closely at the screen, you will see him with two other little-known members of congress, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. we honor him tonight not only for protecting america's security, but for being a warrior in the fight for american ideals and the american dream. leon panetta has lived that american dream and exemplified those ideals. he is the son of immigrants who witnessed firsthand the bigotry that targeted italian-americans and he overcame the taunts and the stereotypes to achieve elected office and to assume the
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most powerful roles in the executive branch of government. in the nixon administration, he led a memorable battle for school integration. he faced down a government intent on trying to stop busing despite a unanimous supreme court decision that schools must be integrated. leon made a gut-level decision and chose to stand up for what he thought was right. in spite of the risks to his own career. that story did not end well for him. he was forced to resign. secretary panetta led the pentagon's repeal of don't ask don't tell policy, which had barred gays and lesbians from serving openly.
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he made history by extending military benefits to same-sex couples. one of his final acts before leaving the pentagon was to rescind the ban on women serving in combat. this removed a last vestige of rules barring servicewomen from serving in combat, and it paved the way for the largest expansion of their role on the front lines. leon panetta, who served president nixon, president clinton, and president obama, is someone who does not bend or yield to cynicism. he is faithful to his job and to sound governance. he and his wife have created the panetta institute at stanford
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and are now devoted to teaching the next generation that public service is a high calling, that civility and integrity matter in democracy. as an organization committed to protecting america's securities, we could think of no better honoree but the man who presided over not only the attack and disruption of al qaeda, but who shepherded historic changes to civil rights and opportunities here at home. for his leadership and commitment to protecting america's security and preserving america's highest ideals, we are pleased and proud to present the 2013 centennial institute service award to leon panetta.
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i would like to ask alan gary to join me at the podium and also secretary hagel. [applause] >> have a seat.
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thank you very much. this is really a great honor, a wonderful honor from a wonderful group on this 100th anniversary. i cannot tell you how much i deeply appreciate your honoring me. i want to thank alan gary for creating this award in honor of his parents. i would also like to thank my buddy abe foxman and stacy burdette and the staff of adl. abe, you have done so much for our country and for our world to teach us to live in a world without bigotry and without hatred.
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in my book, you are a national treasure. you are an american patriot, and i am am honored to be here with you tonight. [applause] i am also honored to be back in new york city. this has a lot of special meaning for me. my parents came through this town. my grandfather as well bought some property in brooklyn. i do not know what the hell ever happened to that. [laughter] i served as an assistant to the mayor of new york city. i spent some time working in the city and getting to know it. i worked very closely with the delegation both on the senate side as well as on the house side.
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and i also served on the board of the new york stock exchange. i have an awful lot of relationships in the city. i am also honored to be here with my successor at the pentagon, secretary of defense chuck hagel. he is a good friend and somebody who i think really has greatly served this country. [applause] chuck, one thing i have always been proud of is having a good sense of timing when to get the hell out of washington. [laughter] i have never in 50 years of public service seen so many people dedicated to screwing things up. [laughter] [applause]
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every time i look at what is happening there, i keep thinking of a story that a good friend once told. we were doing a summit. one of the first budget summits during the reagan administration, democrats and republicans sitting in a room. it was tough. all of the tough issues were on the table, entitlements, discretionary spending. it was not easy, but we stayed there. leadership said we had to stay in the room and not leave until we got a deal. every time we were close to a deal, someone would get out and walk out in disgust. sylvio said i am sick and tired of this. this reminds me of a story of
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the three missionaries, the british, the french, and the italian missionaries who were in a very uncivilized part of the world, and they were making their way down this uncivilized river in their little boat, and the boat tipped over and they made it to shore only to fall into the hands of the cannibal tribe. the chief said you have a choice. you can either take your own lives or jump into this pot of boiling water. either way, we will use your skins for our canoes. the british missionary took out his knife and plunged it into his heart and said god save the queen. the french missionary took out his knife and slit his wrists and said, viva la france. the italian started punching himself in the stomach and chest with his stiletto, and the chief
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said, what are you doing? i am trying to screw up your canoe. [laughter] there are a lot people trying to screw up the canoe. i know trying to work and keep the defense department focused and dealing with 3 million americans who serve courageously in that department, i know they count on your leadership and you are doing an outstanding job under very difficult circumstances. 100 years. i'm honored by the purpose of the anti-defamation league, to fight hatred, fight for equality this country was founded on those principles.
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the adl fights for the purpose of that democracy and that makes all of you great patriots. i think -- [applause] i think i first learned about in congress i was and had the opportunity to be able to learn about it. i stayed with several members of congress, those of us who came back to washington and did not have our families accompany us. we stayed together and it is fair to say it was animal house on capitol hill. one of those members was chuck obviously youne all know and who has a tremendous passion for israel that is deep and infectious and has a great passion for a lot of things. we slept in the bottom of the house in the living room.
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he slept on a couch and i slept in a made up bad and every night before we went to sleep, i tried to get him to say a hail mary. .e made me say the shema we tried to cover all the bases and we did. i learned a lot from him. adlned a lot about what the was all about and what it did. the reason i guess i -- appreciate the work that you do is because i am the son of immigrants. most of you are the sons and daughters or grandsons and granddaughters of immigrants. that is a story i know well. my parents came to this country in the early 1930 plus. like millions of other immigrants, had very little money, very little english to my
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few skills. islandme through ellis and managed ultimately to make their way to my home town of monterey. i used as my father why did he travel all that distance, leaving obviously there was poverty in the area of italy they lived in but they had the comfort of family. why would you leave all of that? to come to a strange land? my father said to me, it was because your mother and i believed we could give our children a better life. that is the american dream. for ourwhat we want children and hopefully our children will want for theirs. but dreams are just dreams. say, dreams used to are just dreams. unless you're willing to work for it, unless you're willing to sacrifice, unless you are willing to take risks, unless
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forare willing to fight what you believe in. those are the values that my parents had in the values they passed on the me. they were tough. -- that had to make their way in a strange society but they knew there was opportunity here. mice -- my dad started a restaurant in downtown monterey during the warriors. a tough time. my earliest recollections were washing glasses because my parents believed child labor was a requirement. after the war, sold the restaurant and moved out and bought a farm in carmel valley where we continue to reside now. orchard, usedut to go around with a pole and hook and my mother -- brother and i used to be underneath it collecting walnuts. fathergot to congress my
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said i was well trained to go to washington because i had been dodging not so my life. , thoseues of my parents values were hard work and sacrifice and commitment and dedication and fighting for what you want to achieve. those are the values, frankly, that made america great. and it is those who are willing to the trumpet, to the call to service that helps preserve our democracy for the future. this dinner in many ways honors people who have answered the basic call to public service. you have been asked to serve your community with your philanthropy and more importantly, with your time, with your commitment, and with your energy. award, as i accept this
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i would like to share it with that have served with me in my different capacities because it is their service and their commitment that made whatever i was able to achieve happen. my own personal commitment to public service was for my said i and my brother owed something back to this country for what this country had given them. learning in the army about what it meant to work together for a common mission and learning what it meant to be willing to sacrifice in order to accomplish the difficult mission and a young president who said, not -- ask not what your country can do for you but what you can
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do for this country, that is what inspired me to get involved in public service and that is the reason i went back to washington as a young legislative assistant and ultimately, the reason i headed up the u.s. office for civil to my and it was tough desegregating schools in the south during that time was not easy. the people in the office for civil rights were dedicated, dedicated to accomplishing the task of giving kids an equal education. time, president nixon as you know pursued the southern strategy and made a deal with strom thurmond that they were strong civil off rights enforcement and i had to make the basic decision at that and --o i uphold the law or back off of my principles.
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fight for what i believe in or do i sacrifice my job? i lost my job but i have never regretted the decision. of standing for what you believe in. [applause] went back to monterey and public service was still in my veins, and for congress, served eight terms in the congress and i have to say that it was a different congress. speaker tip o'neill, bob we just people that honored the other day, tom foley who was a speaker and majority leader, republicans and the regrets worked together. they work together to try to solve the problems facing this country. they had their differences. their politics.
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when it came to issues affecting this country, they work together for the common good and that is the way our democracy should work. [applause] clinton asked me then to take over the office of management and budget and the good people there help work with me and the president to develop the clinton economic line and as a result of that and the result of the work that was done on budget summits and budget agreements, we ultimately balanced the federal budget. balanced the, we federal budget. it was done because evil were willing to work together to be able to a compass that. i returned to monterey after that service, my wife and i started the pineda institute because we wanted to inspire young people to get into public life and public service. that is the heart and soul of
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our democracy. in 2009 the trumpet sounded again for me and the president -- president obama asked if i would consider running the cia. i have to be honest with you. i was reluctant at first. but then i look at the challenges that were facing this nation. two wars, the war on terrorism after 9/11, al qaeda's in hiding in pakistan and continuing to read their influence in an effort to attack this country. the nuclear -- i came back to .ederal service objectives.
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to restore the credibility of that agency and that is what the president asked me to do. second was to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat the terrorists who attacked this country on 9/11. professionals.of they are not republican, they are not democrats. they are not political. are good public servants, good americans. who come to work every day looking to do what is best for this country, to keep america safe, to keep america safe. that is the key. the key to what the cia and the intelligence agencies are all about. the president also asked that i , and at thatladen time, the trail was pretty cold.
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we had a team at likely that was responsible for the mission. i asked for weekly updates. in the fall of 2009 we learned how difficult it would be in the struggle to try to find in laden and his -- bin laden and his leadership. we have a lead on them or to, as zawahiri.y -- lead along the border. he oculd le -- he could lead us to zawahiri. that asset could lead us to the base. after getting out of the car, the asset detonated an explosive
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vest with ball bearings that tore through the compound and through the agents that were there. he was a double agent and had lord our officers into a deadly trap. seven cia officers were killed. i met the caskets when they .rrived at dover air base it was a bitterly cold january attention asood at the seven flag draped coffins were loaded off of a c-17. peoplere the kind of that gave their lives in order to protect this country and he gave us the inspiration to do everything we could to go after bin ladin -- bin laden. we found a group of couriers and
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found a compound in abbottabad. walls, a seven foot wall on the third floor alchemy, residents who never loved, had no telephone, conducted themselves in highly secure ways, mysterious family living on the third floor after a great deal of surveillance, we came to the conclusion there was a strong possibility that bin laden was there and i could remember when the president went around the room and asked whether or not we ought to conduct that operation. i said i have a very simple test, mr. president, that i have often used in politics. just ask the average citizen if you knew what i do about the intelligence on bin laden, that this was the best intelligence , what since tora bora
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would you do? i think the average american would want us to conduct that operation. the president to his credit said we should. go and two was a dozen of our best and brightest went into harms way at night into pakistan. and conducted that operation with great skill and great determination, and they sent a message to the world that nobody attacks the united states of america and gets away with it. [applause] the president asked by would service secretary of defense. -- if i would serve as secretary of defense.
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very dedicated people who want to keep america safe. we were able to accomplish a wart deal in ending the than beginning the drawdown in afghanistan, working with our nato allies to get rid of qaddafi. we into rented -- implemented unprecedented sanctions and pressure on iran, uniting the world against their nuclear ambitions in making clear that they must not close the straits of farmers and not develop a nuclear weapon. i think we clearly should negotiate to determine whether they are serious about dealing with their nuclear capability, but we have to maintain a healthy skepticism. it is the supreme leader that is the key. the supreme leader and they are not likely to agree to give up
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enrichment so therefore we must remain strong. we must remain consistent that they must never, never be able to develop a nuclear weapon, and that we may very well have to use military force to back up our policy. [applause] together to make sure that everyone would have the opportunity to serve in our military. that is what this organization is about, giving everybody the opportunity to serve when they want to. men, women, regardless of sexual orientation, people who want to serve this country ought to have the opportunity to serve it in uniform and they do now. [applause] and we strengthen our alliance with israel.
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and this check said we continue thatpport israel. i made first trip 20 years ago, and adl qh -- an adl trip. are of the cia and secretary of defense i believed the plea in our obligation to maintain close ties with israel so that we could confront our common enemies together, working andely with the mayor a others in over the course of time we did everything we could to ensure that israel would have the wherewithal to be able to
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provide for its security. we have no better friend, no better ally in our world then israel. [applause] i fear today that -- a fear today at that i will share to -- there is a growing mood of isolationism in this country. that this remains a very dangerous world. we are fighting a war and we continue to confront terrorism, yes, we have gone after al qaeda's core leadership that there are now al qaeda nodes in yemen and somalia
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and north africa. we continue to have a threat from north korea as they test icbm capabilities and nuclear weapons. we have instability and fragility across the middle east . chinae rising powers like that pose unique challenges, old powers like russia that continue to challenge our policies. we are witnessing a new battlefront and were face -- in warfare called ciber and i do believe that ciber could be the pearl harbor of the future so we need to protect ourselves from that as well. all of this happens at a time by the are imperiled gridlock in washington. this is a time when we must
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strengthour military in our role in the world as a world leader. we cannot retreat from the responsibilities the u.s. has in the world of today. [applause] in fact i will tell you something. if you ask me what the biggest dread to our national security is today it is the fact that our political leaders cannot come together to deal with this nation's problems. [applause] this gridlock imperils our national security. and chuck knows this firsthand. as a result of sequester, as a result of the shutdown we are hurting our military readiness in this country. we are making it much more if
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called to respond to a major crisis outside of the war zones. the shutdowns and the threats to message ofsending a weakness to the world and it is all avoidable. these are self-inflicted wounds that frankly can be avoided. avoided if our elected leaders come together, make the compromises necessary to govern the country. and i 50 years of public service i have seen washington at its best and washington at its worst. though i see in washington that is dysfunctional today i have also seen it work. republicans and the crowds coming together to protect our country. i believe it can happen again but our leaders have to be willing to take risks. the real strength of america
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lies in the american people. and those men and women in uniform who are willing to put their lives on the line in order to protect this country. that is where the real strength of america lies. [applause] let me end by telling you the story of one family. that took the risk that i just talked about. 2012 in afghanistan, third battalion, first special forces. , sergeant first class, 34, an army ranger was struck by enemy fire and he died several days later in germany. and twobehind a wife sons and a daughter.
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practice and it is one of the toughest things we do as secretary of defense is to write a handwritten note to parents and -- who have lost loved ones. what made this letter different is i realized it was the second time i had written to the wise family. his brother jeremy was one of the seven cia officers who died in the bombing in december of 2009. these are the families that are sacrificing for our country. if they are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to fight and die in order to protect this country and surely our political leaders can find a little bit of that courage in order to govern this nation. [applause]
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a few months after i visited the host base, either member that on the wall there there was a verse from the old testament from the prophet isaiah. they had it up on a plaque is i the through the base. saying is this. and then i heard the voice of the lord saying, whom shall i send and who will go for us? and then i said, here i am. send me. know, this isyou send me. that is the call of the trumpet. service.he call to it is the call, the timeless
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and to serve and sacrifice it binds us in a very sacred mission. mission andled that i want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, not just for this award, for what you do in sohting discovered nation that an immigrant kid from monterey could grow up to live the american dream, be secretary of defense of the greatest country the world has ever known . thank you for what you have done for america and for the world is past 100 years. god bless this country and god bless all of you. [applause]
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>> i am surrounded by a few items that kept me on the -- kept her on the best-dressed list. this is the outfit she wore to the formal opening of this saint lawrence seaway where she and ike met the queen and prince philip. another custom designed dress. this is a printed cotton fabric with many of the houses that the eisenhower's lived in during their marriage. it includes the five star symbol generalfive star eisenhower. she was fond of the color pink and wore it in many different shades and styles. jackie kennedy is well-known for the little black dress and here are two examples of mamie's favorite.
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she always said she would never dress like a little old lady. these gowns show her love of bright colors and wild fabrics. mamies first lady eisenhower, tonight live at 9:00 eastern on c-span and c-span3, also on c-span radio and c- span.org. >> next, a conversation about the 2008 financial crisis and the government's response. we will hear from several top economic advisers to president george w. bush and barack obama. from the university of chicago, this is one hour. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome austin goolsby, lawrence summers, philip swingle, and the wall street journal's david wessel. ♪
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>> thank you very much. i am honored to be here with austen goolsbee who was in the obama white house and he was -- larry summers who was in the clinton and obama white house and if you believe what the press says, he either single -- he was single-handedly responsible for the economic crisis or if they had only listened we would not have had one. >> we are going to focus on the economic imprecations of the crisis because there are other things later. as i told the panelists i want to think about what we know now about 2008 and 2009 that was not so clear the time but also about 2013 and why we are where we are.
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let me start with you. you were chronologically. there are a lot of americans who say basically what happened here was wall street got bailed out and main street did not. after all the stock market is back in the banks are making money, we still have a lot of unemployment. so if somebody walked in off the street today and said to you, you guys did what you thought was right but basically wall street got bailed out and main street did not, what would you say to them? >> it was not the goal and i do not you was the outcome. the goal that president bush had in mind was making sure the economy kept functioning. he was willing to do whatever it took to get that to happen. the central part of the crisis as you know going back to 2007 septembert peaked in 2008 was the financial sector froze and the feeling was we had to do something and do something
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quickly to get that moving. that did mean that some people were bailed out. there is no doubt about that. i remember being asked on tv, are you not worried about the moral hazard and my response was of course we are worried. the issue is one of the consequences of not dealing with it right now and i think the president and all the people in his administration felt that was the primary concern. >> what would you say? there were a lot of bailouts. some of main street got bailed out.
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